The first books I sold through Ingram Spark (Lightning Source’s independent author print-on-demand service) were purchased way back in early January of this year. After a phenomenally long 90 day holding period, I received notification that compensation for those sales would be paid out on May 1st, 2018.
Only it wasn’t.
It wasn’t a huge amount of money and I receive small payments from a wide array of sources each month, so it wasn’t until early June that I realized I’d never received any payment from Ingram Spark. After double-checking that my compensation information was complete and accurate, I contacted them. Here’s what happened and what I learned.
In Search of Answers
About twelve hours after I sent my query, the message bounced back: mail delivery failed. Either ingramsparksupport@ingramcontent.com was no longer a good address, or their email server had my email server on its block list. After a bit research of and some input from a friend who’s an IT Professional, it turned out to be the latter.
Fingers crossed that I’d be able to open a support ticket from an email address that wasn’t the one associated with my account, I emailed Ingram Spark Support from an email account with a different provider. And then I waited. And waited.
On July 2nd I received this helpful canned response, which led me to believe no one had actually read my query. I’d made it clear that I wasn’t asking about the status of payment for recent sales, but for those that should have paid out on May 1st.
“We were notified that you had a question on why you have not been paid yet for book sales. Looks like we haven’t approached payment date yet. You are paid 90 days from end of the month when books sold.
Here is more info from our finance team: April sales are not yet due, March sales are in process for payment today as per terms/schedule. Thanks!”
My response:
“Attached is a copy of the unpaid publisher compensation report I’m referring to. The sales were made in January and the payment was due May 1st. Are you saying that it will be additional 90 days?”
On August 20th, I received this response:
“Thank you for reaching out to us. Because we are unable to confirm your royalties, please contact our Accounts Payable team at Sales_Comp_Dept.us@ingramcontent.com.”
In the interest of full disclosure, my gripe isn’t with the slowness of this exchange. This was a particularly busy summer for me, and there was sometimes a week or two between when they responded and when I found their response. Response dates are the dates on the emails, not the dates I discovered them in my inbox.
When I resubmitted my query to the Sales Compensation Department, I received this reply:
“Leland– Lightning Source, Inc. attempted to send an electronic payment on 5/1/18, however, the deposit was rejected by your bank stating ‘No account/Cannot locate.’ Therefore, your payment method was changed to USD check.
Lightning Source, Inc./IngramSpark has a minimum check writing threshold of $100.00 for payments made via USD/Check, thus, payments are not sent until sales accumulate to the $100.00 minimum.
To prevent payment delay due to our check writing policy, you have the option to change your payment method. Please complete the attached direct deposit form and return it to ——–@ingramcontent.com. See below for payment options….Please note, direct deposits cannot be sent to a savings account, checking accounts only. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.” (Emphasis mine.)
There was the answer I’d been seeking for nearly three months: the direct deposit had failed because it was sent to a savings account. For some inexplicable reason, Ingram Spark doesn’t deposit to savings accounts.
Why This IS Concerning
There are several things I find disturbing about this chain of events.
The first occurred on May 1st, when Ingram Spark attempted to pay me via direct deposit, failed, attempted to write me a check, failed, and then decided to sit on my money until I’d accrued $100 in royalties. At no point during that chain of events did they reach out to me to say “Hey, something went wrong. Would you like to verify your banking information or give us new instructions?” And in our modern world of automated email notifications, that wouldn’t have been hard to do.
To find out what was going on, I had to circumvent a support email system that had my major email provider’s servers blocked. Then I had to argue my way past several layers of support that seemed strangely keen to dismiss my query as ‘You’re just mistaken about when your royalties are due.’
When I finally reached Ingram Spark’s compensation department, they were quick to explain what had happened. Unfortunately their contact info isn’t publicly available to those with compensation-related questions.
Lastly, a lot of time and effort could have been saved if Ingram Spark’s publisher compensation page stated that they don’t deposit to savings accounts. But for some reason, it doesn’t.
Why This Is Surprising
I’m one of those people who actually read the legal documentation of things I sign up for. In today’s legally savvy times, most exploitive service clauses are hidden in plain sight in the Terms and Conditions.
As a result, I’m rarely surprised– but it was a surprise to me that Ingram Spark doesn’t deposit to savings accounts. This is not stated anywhere that I could find on their site. Perhaps it was a standard practice to only deposit to checking accounts forty or fifty years ago. As the song goes, “The times they are a-changing.”
Amazon and Createspace have no trouble depositing my compensation to a savings account. Neither do Barnes & Noble and Kobo. Every job I’ve ever had that offered electronic deposit has been able to utilize my savings account, as have several dozen utilities, service providers, and credit cards companies.
Banking practices have changed a lot in the last few decades. With the rise of plastic and the onerous restrictions attached to checking accounts, those accounts are rapidly losing their usefulness. I don’t know anyone my age or younger who still writes paper checks. Many of us don’t have a checking account at all. Checking is functionally obsolete.
Smart businesses have moved with the times and discarded checking-only policies. Of the many businesses and financial institutions I’ve had dealings with over the years, only two have retained their out-of-date checking-account-only policies: Chase Bank credit cards and Lightning Source’s Ingram Spark.
Why this is Unethical
While the $100 check payment threshold is relatively low, the average independent author probably won’t sell enough books to meet that threshold in a month. Many may not sell that many books through Ingram Spark in a year.
Imagine thousands of payments, each totaling anywhere from a few dollars to nearly a hundred, sitting in an bank account somewhere collecting interest. It may be months or even years until the individual author accrues enough compensation to justify a paper check. This is clearly a profitable practice for Ingram Spark. It’s also very obviously unethical, given the lack of notification authors receive when their payment method is changed from direct deposit to paper check.
A warning For Authors
Most independent and self published authors are busy people. We write, run businesses, work full time jobs, and raise families. We don’t always have time to keep a watchful eye on every publisher and wholesaler our books are listed with. We trust those businesses to pay out compensation honestly and in a timely manner.
There are undoubtedly quite a few authors out there who don’t realize their Ingram Spark compensation remains unpaid. Fellow Ingram Spark users, this is my message to you: check your sales reports regularly and check that your compensation is actually being paid out– because Ingram Spark won’t tell you if it isn’t.
Morgan Smith says:
Createspace wouldn’t do direct deposit for Canadian authors, ever. They, too, had a 100 dollar (USD) threshold.
The same month that I hit that threshold, they shut down. I have NO idea where my money is – since it hit $100 in August, apparently Amazon can take another three months to get around to paying me….
Sadly, it looks as if Ingram will be just as much of a pain to deal with, too.
Leland Lydecker says:
I’m so sorry. I’m planning on doing a post about Amazon’s scuttling of Createspace in favor of KDP, but I’m waiting to see how the transition goes for my books before I throw my 2 cents in. Please let me know how long it takes them to pay you.
A small ray of hope for Ingram Spark, if you have or are willing to set up a PayPal account: apparently IS will deposit to a Paypal account, and there is no deposit threshold. I think that should be the same for Canadian authors.
J. I. Rogers says:
Thank you for the informative post – I’m sharing it to my author page on FB.
I’m a Canadian author so I’ll try swapping over to the PayPal option on Ingram Spark.
On a related note I ran into the same issue with Createspace as Morgan Smith did. I am a firm believer in screenshots, and began the claim with Amazon the day they started displaying the Createspace totals with the KDP ones. So far I’ve had 5 e-mails ranging from “We’re sorry this is taking so long… we are looking into it…”
Morgan Smith says:
I sent them an email – no reply.
I am hoping they pay me. I’m kind of broke these days.
Sylvia Ruff says:
Thank you for this post, because I paid for 10 books and never received them. It was my author copies. Then they kept telling me I had them when they only sent the soft copies and the hard copies cost me 100$. Now my sign in will not work. I think they are a scam.
J.T. Author says:
I know this is an old post, but I receive direct deposit (electronic transfer) of funds into a savings account from IngramSpark. I live in Canada, and I’m paid in Canadian dollars. I’ve been paid into the savings account since I started receiving payment from IngramSpark, beginning in August of 2018, with my first payment well under $50 CAD. I’ve been able to verify all IngramSpark payment statements against my bank account’s records without any discrepancy.
Leland Lydecker says:
It does not appear that IS had a minimum amount for USD direct deposits into checking accounts, but their communications with me did specifically state that they would not deposit to savings accounts. The $100 threshold was only for writing a check. It sounds like IS has a different set of regulations for payments made in Canadian dollars, and I’m glad that they’re more reasonable. I can only speculate why that is, but my best guess would involve stricter regulations governing how royalties are paid out.
Barbara W. Urquhart says:
I would like to have sales purchases deposited into my savings account. Your savings account page is not allowing me to enter my banking information. How do I make this happen?
Barbara W. Urquhart says:
I would like to have sales purchases deposited into my savings account. Your savings account page is not allowing me to enter my banking information. How do I make this happen?
Nic says:
I really wish there was some other reputable way to create hardcover books. I tried Lulu and they completely bungle up my account after printing around 4 hardback copies. In fact, the account doesn’t even show my books anymore. I called them during the start of the pandemic to find out what the heck was going on, and they failed to ever get back to me after multiple attempts on my part.
I am a part of Amazon’s trial hardback program, and tried to submit a hardback to them earlier this year. We had so many tech difficulties, and I couldn’t speak to anyone who could actively help, so now, I’m unfortunately back with INgramspark. They are difficult, to say the least. They are no longer providing customer service (phone support). I wish I had the ability to print the books myself or buy a lot from China. But alas, until then, I’m stuck with IS! What a joke.
Bob (James Robert) Schwandt says:
Since I am not able to contact your office by phone, I hope that this email will be forwarded to the right office. My book was released in May 2021, and I have been tracking sales, but I have no way of knowing the total sales. It only gives “past 30 days” report. ALSO, I want to change the account that my sales funds will be sent to. The account I had given your office is no longer active. I hesitate giving the account number in a general email like this, so if you could have the proper person contact me by email or by phone, I would be happy to update the account information. I hope that soon the Covid stuff will be over, so we can again communicate by phone. My phone # is 763-227-3534 and of course my email will be given below.
Manuela says:
I read that from 2018 to now; things have not changed: ingram,spark does not pay.
Many of us have posted for well over $100 and have entered direct details of our bank accounts, but ingramspark does not pay.
Not only that, the support always sucks and responds only with preformed emails and to try to dismiss you as if you were an idiot who asks trivial things, but they also tease you by continuing to send emails in which they say that you had violated the rules of catalog integrity. In contrast, instead, a week before, I had explicitly asked support if I could publish on that account and if their controls were in place, and they told me and wrote yes. They suck. Is it worth posting and spending time and money to launch books on a platform that does not pay?
Did you get the money in the end?
Is there any way to contact an efficient lawyer?
Thank you
Frederica S Mathewes-Green says:
I’m a new IS user (published originally on Amazon) and only now realized I have amounts over $200 of unpaid compensation. No explanation of why it is unpaid. I switched just now to a checking account from a savings account. Will that help? Who knows? This is so frustrating. There is no reason ever for “unpaid compensation.”